1 00:00:08,419 --> 00:00:05,960 welcome to NASA's Jet Propulsion 2 00:00:10,820 --> 00:00:08,429 Laboratory in Pasadena California I'm 3 00:00:13,129 --> 00:00:10,830 Veronica McGregor well the rover has 4 00:00:15,369 --> 00:00:13,139 just completed its all three day three 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:15,379 activities and it has sent us back 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:18,210 postcards of another picture-perfect day 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:20,970 on Mars here to tell us about all of 8 00:00:26,420 --> 00:00:23,130 that in an update on all the activities 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:26,430 we have michael watkins he's the MSL 10 00:00:32,389 --> 00:00:27,810 mission manager from the Jet Propulsion 11 00:00:34,370 --> 00:00:32,399 Laboratory Michael male in the principal 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:34,380 investigator for the mast camera on 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:37,050 curiosity from meal and space science 14 00:00:43,549 --> 00:00:41,610 systems in San Diego Don Summoner a 15 00:00:50,110 --> 00:00:43,559 science team member from the University 16 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:50,120 of California and Davis and the mishkan 17 00:01:01,119 --> 00:00:52,410 integrated planning and execution team 18 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:01,129 chief from JPL and Doug Ellison 19 00:01:07,609 --> 00:01:04,530 visualization producer at JPL and we'll 20 00:01:10,130 --> 00:01:07,619 begin with michael watkins ok good 21 00:01:12,859 --> 00:01:10,140 morning we had another really fantastic 22 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:12,869 day on Mars curiosity and continues to 23 00:01:19,660 --> 00:01:17,210 behave basically flawlessly and and 24 00:01:22,460 --> 00:01:19,670 executed all all the planned activities 25 00:01:23,719 --> 00:01:22,470 successfully nominally yesterday and 26 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:23,729 it's a good time for me to point out 27 00:01:27,770 --> 00:01:25,890 that the the team operating curiosity 28 00:01:30,499 --> 00:01:27,780 also is performing basically flawlessly 29 00:01:33,859 --> 00:01:30,509 and completing all planned activities as 30 00:01:36,050 --> 00:01:33,869 well it's really really just a great day 31 00:01:38,990 --> 00:01:36,060 all around so thus all three activities 32 00:01:40,999 --> 00:01:39,000 consist of a couple of things we you 33 00:01:43,270 --> 00:01:41,009 know we're about to do a we're about to 34 00:01:46,429 --> 00:01:43,280 upgrade our our software on the rover 35 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:46,439 just like we upgrade our operating 36 00:01:49,039 --> 00:01:47,490 system on your home computer and your 37 00:01:50,210 --> 00:01:49,049 laptop or something we're going to do 38 00:01:52,670 --> 00:01:50,220 the same thing we need a new flight 39 00:01:54,380 --> 00:01:52,680 software load that is optimized for 40 00:01:55,850 --> 00:01:54,390 surface so we landed on one that was 41 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:55,860 optimized for landing but you know 42 00:01:59,090 --> 00:01:57,210 landing doesn't have to drive the rover 43 00:02:00,620 --> 00:01:59,100 and operate the arm and all that and by 44 00:02:02,030 --> 00:02:00,630 the same token the surface doesn't have 45 00:02:03,410 --> 00:02:02,040 to doesn't have to land the vehicle so 46 00:02:05,300 --> 00:02:03,420 we want to switch to this new flight 47 00:02:07,730 --> 00:02:05,310 software that's that's really optimized 48 00:02:08,979 --> 00:02:07,740 for for for surface operations and we're 49 00:02:11,640 --> 00:02:08,989 going to do that starting tomorrow 50 00:02:13,830 --> 00:02:11,650 actually day after tomorrow sorry 51 00:02:15,449 --> 00:02:13,840 solve 5 is we're going to start that 52 00:02:17,069 --> 00:02:15,459 activity so we had a little prep work 53 00:02:19,500 --> 00:02:17,079 for that activity we want to check out 54 00:02:20,789 --> 00:02:19,510 the our backup flight computer and make 55 00:02:23,220 --> 00:02:20,799 sure that that was healthy and it looks 56 00:02:24,569 --> 00:02:23,230 fine we also send up some files to get 57 00:02:26,699 --> 00:02:24,579 ready for the for the for the flight 58 00:02:28,050 --> 00:02:26,709 software transition now the other things 59 00:02:29,640 --> 00:02:28,060 we did was check out some more of our 60 00:02:30,990 --> 00:02:29,650 instruments to do some more health 61 00:02:33,479 --> 00:02:31,000 checks on them on the remaining 62 00:02:37,199 --> 00:02:33,489 instruments and so we checked out the 63 00:02:38,970 --> 00:02:37,209 Sam instrument chemin apxs and Dan and 64 00:02:40,289 --> 00:02:38,980 they all they all pass those checks 65 00:02:42,330 --> 00:02:40,299 successfully they're all in great shape 66 00:02:44,399 --> 00:02:42,340 as far as we know you know through the 67 00:02:46,039 --> 00:02:44,409 tests that we've done and and that's a 68 00:02:48,509 --> 00:02:46,049 that's a great sign and you know nothing 69 00:02:53,670 --> 00:02:48,519 nothing no anomaly showed up at all in 70 00:02:57,210 --> 00:02:53,680 that in any of those tests we we also 71 00:03:00,569 --> 00:02:57,220 took a whole lot of imagery around us so 72 00:03:02,819 --> 00:03:00,579 we took a 360-degree panorama of using 73 00:03:04,349 --> 00:03:02,829 the nav cams of the train around the 74 00:03:06,149 --> 00:03:04,359 rover and also you look back at 75 00:03:08,099 --> 00:03:06,159 ourselves and took a close-up of the of 76 00:03:10,170 --> 00:03:08,109 the deck we also took the first strand 77 00:03:11,190 --> 00:03:10,180 60 degree panorama in color that Mike 78 00:03:13,020 --> 00:03:11,200 male and we'll talk about a little bit 79 00:03:16,020 --> 00:03:13,030 and started to get the first first bits 80 00:03:21,809 --> 00:03:16,030 of that down so let me let me start by 81 00:03:27,479 --> 00:03:21,819 showing the sum of those images make 82 00:03:29,909 --> 00:03:27,489 sure okay so this is our this is our 83 00:03:32,580 --> 00:03:29,919 deck pan and now we're kind of zooming 84 00:03:35,039 --> 00:03:32,590 in here and you can see here that that's 85 00:03:37,860 --> 00:03:35,049 actually the rad instrument and you can 86 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:37,870 see a few of these kind of large large 87 00:03:41,789 --> 00:03:39,970 for us pebbles on the surface and those 88 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:41,799 are apparently were kicked up by the by 89 00:03:45,899 --> 00:03:43,690 the landing event apparently our Mars 90 00:03:48,930 --> 00:03:45,909 Lander engines actually pushed up some 91 00:03:51,390 --> 00:03:48,940 of these gravel kind of stuff maybe up 92 00:03:55,170 --> 00:03:51,400 to about a centimeter in size on top the 93 00:03:59,009 --> 00:03:55,180 rover and they pose no no problem for 94 00:04:00,659 --> 00:03:59,019 operations they we do move the black 95 00:04:03,330 --> 00:04:00,669 thing there the the differential pivot 96 00:04:05,759 --> 00:04:03,340 around but but can easily go over these 97 00:04:07,559 --> 00:04:05,769 or crush these or not even not even hit 98 00:04:09,180 --> 00:04:07,569 them at all go on top of them so we 99 00:04:10,289 --> 00:04:09,190 don't see any operational constraint by 100 00:04:13,319 --> 00:04:10,299 this stuff being there but it's a little 101 00:04:15,659 --> 00:04:13,329 unexpected that that it is there the the 102 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:15,669 edl team when they analyzed the landing 103 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:17,530 before landing I think they didn't think 104 00:04:21,779 --> 00:04:19,090 they would kick up stuff this this large 105 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:21,789 and so I think they're off looking at 106 00:04:24,580 --> 00:04:22,730 that 107 00:04:27,130 --> 00:04:24,590 maybe these are lighter material than 108 00:04:28,300 --> 00:04:27,140 they expected or something like that but 109 00:04:30,010 --> 00:04:28,310 you're the EO guys you know they have 110 00:04:32,350 --> 00:04:30,020 nothing to do now so so that you know 111 00:04:33,700 --> 00:04:32,360 they know they know they need a problem 112 00:04:35,220 --> 00:04:33,710 to go start working on right so this is 113 00:04:37,150 --> 00:04:35,230 this is this is something for them to do 114 00:04:38,470 --> 00:04:37,160 but as I mentioned we don't see any 115 00:04:39,670 --> 00:04:38,480 impact to this you know the rad 116 00:04:40,810 --> 00:04:39,680 instrument and our other instruments 117 00:04:42,190 --> 00:04:40,820 don't seem to be there not covered by 118 00:04:44,770 --> 00:04:42,200 any it's not it's not affecting the 119 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:44,780 science observations so so you know we 120 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:46,730 think that all that's in pretty good 121 00:04:52,300 --> 00:04:49,970 shape let's go to the next slide okay 122 00:04:53,590 --> 00:04:52,310 this is just a kind of a context shot 123 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:53,600 here here we are they can see the 124 00:04:58,450 --> 00:04:55,730 high-gain antenna there to the that's 125 00:04:59,530 --> 00:04:58,460 the hexagonal thing pointed off to the 126 00:05:01,810 --> 00:04:59,540 side there and then behind it that 127 00:05:04,750 --> 00:05:01,820 little thing sticking up is the low gain 128 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:04,760 antenna and you can see the rim of the 129 00:05:10,930 --> 00:05:06,970 crater off off in the distance there and 130 00:05:13,030 --> 00:05:10,940 we also we also acquired some color pans 131 00:05:16,260 --> 00:05:13,040 of this area and mike meal and we'll 132 00:05:19,780 --> 00:05:16,270 we'll talk about those thank you Mike 133 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:19,790 Here I am again wearing another 134 00:05:24,280 --> 00:05:21,770 different hat this time on the principal 135 00:05:26,980 --> 00:05:24,290 investigator of the mast camera and 136 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:26,990 before you've seen me here is Marty the 137 00:05:34,870 --> 00:05:32,210 scent imaging and we got a 360 degree 138 00:05:37,450 --> 00:05:34,880 panorama into the sequence from 139 00:05:40,060 --> 00:05:37,460 yesterday and we got our thumbnails back 140 00:05:43,270 --> 00:05:40,070 and I'll need to tell you that the the 141 00:05:45,070 --> 00:05:43,280 full frames are now stored inside the 142 00:05:48,460 --> 00:05:45,080 camera and we do have to get those 143 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:48,470 images out of the camera and stored into 144 00:05:55,660 --> 00:05:52,370 the the rover's memory in order to bring 145 00:05:58,390 --> 00:05:55,670 them back home but today this saw we're 146 00:06:01,150 --> 00:05:58,400 planning now for is the last saw we have 147 00:06:04,840 --> 00:06:01,160 until after the software activity goes 148 00:06:07,150 --> 00:06:04,850 oh goes through to to get them queued up 149 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:07,160 so we're going to cue up a few of the 150 00:06:10,990 --> 00:06:09,530 full resolution images again what I'm 151 00:06:14,020 --> 00:06:11,000 showing your thumbnails you should 152 00:06:17,050 --> 00:06:14,030 remember back a couple of Sol's ago when 153 00:06:19,570 --> 00:06:17,060 I showed you the thumbnail of the the 154 00:06:21,820 --> 00:06:19,580 heat shield and then I faded that into 155 00:06:23,470 --> 00:06:21,830 the full resolution that's the kind of 156 00:06:25,090 --> 00:06:23,480 difference you will you should expect to 157 00:06:27,100 --> 00:06:25,100 see between what I'm going to show you 158 00:06:29,140 --> 00:06:27,110 now and what will i'll show you when we 159 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:29,150 get some of the full resolution frames 160 00:06:36,180 --> 00:06:31,370 back so I've kind of have the animation 161 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:36,190 please a video this is the full 360 162 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:38,170 Rama it's the color as it was 163 00:06:43,140 --> 00:06:40,930 transmitted accepted brightened up it 164 00:06:45,060 --> 00:06:43,150 was pretty dark to begin with you see 165 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:45,070 there in that area going off to the 166 00:06:50,730 --> 00:06:47,770 right now the impact of the the plume 167 00:06:53,310 --> 00:06:50,740 impact site of the rocket plumes we're 168 00:06:56,060 --> 00:06:53,320 now panning across the base of Mount 169 00:06:59,850 --> 00:06:56,070 sharp we see the shadow of some of the 170 00:07:03,000 --> 00:06:59,860 hardware on the rover itself we zoom in 171 00:07:04,830 --> 00:07:03,010 because there's a big gap of places we 172 00:07:07,470 --> 00:07:04,840 did take pictures so this gives you a 173 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:07,480 better view of the the tier of images 174 00:07:11,370 --> 00:07:09,370 that we did get you'll pick up the rim 175 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:11,380 up at the very top and the haze haze 176 00:07:15,660 --> 00:07:13,930 shows up pretty well in the in the color 177 00:07:17,340 --> 00:07:15,670 you can see it's slightly different 178 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:17,350 color you can see it's a low light layer 179 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:19,690 there as was seen in an Afghan and then 180 00:07:22,890 --> 00:07:20,890 we're going to zoom in here again to 181 00:07:25,380 --> 00:07:22,900 look at the this is the area that's been 182 00:07:28,970 --> 00:07:25,390 discussed it was showing last time I was 183 00:07:32,780 --> 00:07:28,980 here grotzinger talked about bedrock and 184 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:32,790 digging up material by the rocket plumes 185 00:07:37,500 --> 00:07:35,770 so if we can keep going now I think 186 00:07:40,830 --> 00:07:37,510 we're going to back out from this and 187 00:07:43,650 --> 00:07:40,840 just show you the full mosaic again and 188 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:43,660 zoom in back to the other plumes and 189 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:44,890 then we're going to zoom it back into 190 00:07:49,020 --> 00:07:46,450 the proof so you can see the plumes are 191 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:49,030 light toned that's that could be a 192 00:07:52,740 --> 00:07:51,250 contaminant we don't know we probably 193 00:07:54,870 --> 00:07:52,750 won't know unless we go over and observe 194 00:07:58,920 --> 00:07:54,880 these things other than that this is a 195 00:08:03,210 --> 00:07:58,930 very low resolution image there the 196 00:08:05,700 --> 00:08:03,220 images are only 144 by 144 pixels there 197 00:08:09,750 --> 00:08:05,710 130 of them in here took us about an 198 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:09,760 hour six minutes to take the mosaic and 199 00:08:12,710 --> 00:08:11,290 with that I'll hand it off to someone's 200 00:08:15,659 --> 00:08:12,720 going to interpret some of this stuff 201 00:08:18,659 --> 00:08:15,669 yeah so we have these beautiful images 202 00:08:20,130 --> 00:08:18,669 and Mike did a nice job describing some 203 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:20,140 of the interesting features we can see 204 00:08:25,220 --> 00:08:22,450 at the in the early part we're really 205 00:08:29,970 --> 00:08:25,230 looking forward to the full resolution 206 00:08:33,899 --> 00:08:29,980 images we can also see the main reason 207 00:08:37,770 --> 00:08:33,909 we chose Gale as a landing site so if I 208 00:08:40,860 --> 00:08:37,780 could have the first slide so we have 209 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:40,870 this is the navcomm mosaic and in the 210 00:08:46,079 --> 00:08:43,210 upper right you can actually see the 211 00:08:47,020 --> 00:08:46,089 main target area of where we want to go 212 00:08:49,540 --> 00:08:47,030 and 213 00:08:52,810 --> 00:08:49,550 chosen so in the hills at the back 214 00:08:55,270 --> 00:08:52,820 rounded about well between 190 and 200 215 00:08:57,970 --> 00:08:55,280 at the degrees at the top you see these 216 00:09:02,010 --> 00:08:57,980 beautiful knowles and of layered rocks 217 00:09:04,630 --> 00:09:02,020 and the and that is the those layers are 218 00:09:07,450 --> 00:09:04,640 what's recording the history and Gale 219 00:09:09,460 --> 00:09:07,460 Crater and they are one of the reasons 220 00:09:11,980 --> 00:09:09,470 we chose Gale Crater the main the main 221 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:11,990 reason is to study those rocks so we can 222 00:09:19,210 --> 00:09:15,290 see those in the distance from where we 223 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:19,220 are and it's very exciting to think 224 00:09:29,290 --> 00:09:24,530 about getting there but it is a quite a 225 00:09:31,570 --> 00:09:29,300 ways away and we also want to be able to 226 00:09:34,870 --> 00:09:31,580 take the science that we can do where we 227 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:34,880 landed and integrate that into the 228 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:38,930 mission as well so next slide I've been 229 00:09:44,350 --> 00:09:42,170 coordinating a some others a mapping 230 00:09:46,660 --> 00:09:44,360 effort and so you can see in this image 231 00:09:50,410 --> 00:09:46,670 you can see the landing ellipse outlined 232 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:50,420 in red and we've divided the area up 233 00:09:56,890 --> 00:09:54,530 into about one mile by one mile quads or 234 00:09:59,680 --> 00:09:56,900 squares and we had volunteers from the 235 00:10:01,840 --> 00:09:59,690 science team map each quad and what 236 00:10:03,580 --> 00:10:01,850 mapping means is is looking at the 237 00:10:07,330 --> 00:10:03,590 different textures that you can see in 238 00:10:10,690 --> 00:10:07,340 the images and mapping the boundaries 239 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:10,700 between those textures so if we do that 240 00:10:16,030 --> 00:10:13,130 for geology on earth to mark where 241 00:10:20,980 --> 00:10:16,040 different types of rocks are outlined 242 00:10:22,890 --> 00:10:20,990 and curiosity landed in Quad 51 which 243 00:10:27,010 --> 00:10:22,900 happens to be one of the ones I mapped 244 00:10:30,550 --> 00:10:27,020 so I'm sure that that was intentional by 245 00:10:32,170 --> 00:10:30,560 the navigation team and so what the 246 00:10:33,850 --> 00:10:32,180 science team is now doing is we have 247 00:10:35,530 --> 00:10:33,860 these individual maps and we started 248 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:35,540 integrating them to get the broader 249 00:10:42,940 --> 00:10:40,010 picture and also investigating the rocks 250 00:10:46,870 --> 00:10:42,950 and sort of in craters and patterns 251 00:10:51,610 --> 00:10:46,880 around where curiosity is now and we'll 252 00:10:54,820 --> 00:10:51,620 use this map to find a path from where 253 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:54,830 we landed to the main target at the base 254 00:11:00,600 --> 00:10:57,850 of Mount sharp which is 255 00:11:03,780 --> 00:11:00,610 south of where we landed and so we'll 256 00:11:05,670 --> 00:11:03,790 drive on the northwest side of the dunes 257 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:05,680 and go through a break in the dune field 258 00:11:10,199 --> 00:11:07,810 but on the way we're going to have a lot 259 00:11:13,470 --> 00:11:10,209 of interesting geology to look at and so 260 00:11:16,139 --> 00:11:13,480 the team will be balancing observations 261 00:11:20,999 --> 00:11:16,149 and scientific investigations on our 262 00:11:22,769 --> 00:11:21,009 drive but also still get to the base of 263 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:22,779 Mount sharp if I could have in the next 264 00:11:29,129 --> 00:11:26,170 slide this is the quad 51 where 265 00:11:30,689 --> 00:11:29,139 curiosity landed and you can you can 266 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:30,699 tell by looking at this image that we 267 00:11:38,069 --> 00:11:33,490 have several different textures of rocks 268 00:11:41,490 --> 00:11:38,079 and surfaces in this and the team is is 269 00:11:43,620 --> 00:11:41,500 focused on what are the key observations 270 00:11:46,410 --> 00:11:43,630 we can make here that will tell us about 271 00:11:51,540 --> 00:11:46,420 our landing site and then we will go 272 00:11:54,540 --> 00:11:51,550 from those and choose a path to the base 273 00:11:56,519 --> 00:11:54,550 of Mount sharp doing the best sciences 274 00:12:00,749 --> 00:11:56,529 that we can along the way but also 275 00:12:05,569 --> 00:12:00,759 keeping our eyes on that beautiful 276 00:12:09,900 --> 00:12:07,499 okay well you're hearing about these 277 00:12:13,170 --> 00:12:09,910 great results and images coming back and 278 00:12:14,610 --> 00:12:13,180 what they mean I'm here not to talk 279 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:14,620 about those but talk about what we're 280 00:12:19,110 --> 00:12:17,290 doing all day in our mission operations 281 00:12:22,259 --> 00:12:19,120 in order to enable getting those results 282 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:22,269 back and and my team is the team that 283 00:12:26,249 --> 00:12:24,250 does the the command sequencing and 284 00:12:30,059 --> 00:12:26,259 integrates things coming from from the 285 00:12:32,269 --> 00:12:30,069 science teams and it's a challenging 286 00:12:34,769 --> 00:12:32,279 issue to actually do the operations 287 00:12:37,110 --> 00:12:34,779 because we can't joystick the rover due 288 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:37,120 to the time delay and a number of other 289 00:12:42,420 --> 00:12:39,730 reasons we have a very highly resource 290 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:42,430 constrained vehicle the amount of power 291 00:12:48,329 --> 00:12:45,569 that we're getting from the RTG is 292 00:12:50,490 --> 00:12:48,339 basically a little bit more than you 293 00:12:52,079 --> 00:12:50,500 need to power a hundred watt light bulb 294 00:12:55,590 --> 00:12:52,089 we might have in your hallway at home 295 00:12:58,650 --> 00:12:55,600 and we need to also deal with the data 296 00:13:01,949 --> 00:12:58,660 volume and basically make sure that we 297 00:13:04,860 --> 00:13:01,959 can fit the data that we get into our 298 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:04,870 next available opportunity to get to get 299 00:13:11,580 --> 00:13:09,130 data down through our orbiter relays in 300 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:11,590 addition we have to make sure that the 301 00:13:16,470 --> 00:13:14,530 that we can actually achieve what we 302 00:13:17,940 --> 00:13:16,480 want within the time that's available to 303 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:17,950 the rover because it can only do things 304 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:21,130 so quickly and and get that done in time 305 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:23,650 for that down Lee we can only 306 00:13:28,460 --> 00:13:25,810 communicate with the you know with the 307 00:13:32,610 --> 00:13:28,470 rover's a few times per Martian day and 308 00:13:34,260 --> 00:13:32,620 we have to fit those things in so in 309 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:34,270 addition we also have to deal with all 310 00:13:38,340 --> 00:13:36,130 the complex of trying to manage all of 311 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:38,350 the different types of activities that 312 00:13:42,690 --> 00:13:40,090 the members of the science team and 313 00:13:45,390 --> 00:13:42,700 engineering teams want to do so that for 314 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:45,400 example we don't try to point the mask 315 00:13:48,900 --> 00:13:47,530 for to take mass cam images in one 316 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:48,910 direction at the same time that we want 317 00:13:54,030 --> 00:13:51,610 to be pointing to take take engineering 318 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:54,040 camera images so there's hundreds of 319 00:13:58,620 --> 00:13:56,290 those rules that we need to to manage 320 00:14:01,260 --> 00:13:58,630 and all of that takes time and our 321 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:01,270 solution to dealing with the challenges 322 00:14:06,660 --> 00:14:03,610 is effectively we're writing a software 323 00:14:09,420 --> 00:14:06,670 program every day that has to run the 324 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:09,430 first time when we send it up to the to 325 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:10,810 the vehicle that's going to operate on 326 00:14:16,860 --> 00:14:13,210 to tell tell her over what it's going to 327 00:14:19,410 --> 00:14:16,870 do over the next day and that really 328 00:14:21,990 --> 00:14:19,420 involves a combined team of engineers 329 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:22,000 and scientists who are working together 330 00:14:28,140 --> 00:14:25,090 over the course of 16 hours basically 331 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:28,150 every every Martian Saul and if I can 332 00:14:36,780 --> 00:14:31,810 get the graphic this is just a brief 333 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:36,790 summary of our process and one key point 334 00:14:40,140 --> 00:14:38,530 it is you'll see that all of this that's 335 00:14:43,170 --> 00:14:40,150 going on is pretty much when the rover 336 00:14:44,730 --> 00:14:43,180 is asleep and and so that's why I call 337 00:14:46,890 --> 00:14:44,740 it the overnight timeline from the 338 00:14:49,530 --> 00:14:46,900 standpoint of the rover we're doing all 339 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:49,540 of our work when when it's not really 340 00:14:53,250 --> 00:14:51,370 doing much activity except for maybe 341 00:14:55,230 --> 00:14:53,260 some you know brief wake ups for 342 00:14:59,190 --> 00:14:55,240 nighttime operations or communications 343 00:15:01,230 --> 00:14:59,200 and in this process we've got starting 344 00:15:03,690 --> 00:15:01,240 point in the timeline where we get one 345 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:03,700 or another orbiter pass coming bringing 346 00:15:10,230 --> 00:15:07,210 down data from the basically the rover's 347 00:15:13,830 --> 00:15:10,240 late afternoon and getting that on the 348 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:13,840 ground which has some data volume that's 349 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:16,450 going to vary from Saul to Saul we 350 00:15:20,820 --> 00:15:18,730 produce the products that we need to in 351 00:15:22,530 --> 00:15:20,830 order to be able to see the images after 352 00:15:23,980 --> 00:15:22,540 them constructed and and the other 353 00:15:26,380 --> 00:15:23,990 telemetry 354 00:15:28,180 --> 00:15:26,390 and then we in our engineering teams and 355 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:28,190 science teams are assessing and making 356 00:15:32,949 --> 00:15:30,290 sure that the rover is healthy over the 357 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:32,959 course of a few hours and and looking at 358 00:15:37,420 --> 00:15:35,330 the results so that we can based on that 359 00:15:39,250 --> 00:15:37,430 decide we want what we want to do and 360 00:15:43,570 --> 00:15:39,260 what the next steps are for thus all 361 00:15:45,910 --> 00:15:43,580 that will follow at that point we end up 362 00:15:47,740 --> 00:15:45,920 in a meeting and where we end up 363 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:47,750 addressing those those items and 364 00:15:53,650 --> 00:15:49,610 bringing the the key issues to the fore 365 00:15:55,540 --> 00:15:53,660 and that involves about 20 folks at that 366 00:15:57,639 --> 00:15:55,550 point in parallel with all of that 367 00:16:00,550 --> 00:15:57,649 science teams and engineering teams are 368 00:16:02,650 --> 00:16:00,560 looking at the activities that that need 369 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:02,660 to be constructed into a coherent plan 370 00:16:08,139 --> 00:16:06,290 for the next Saul when that is put 371 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:08,149 together and D conflicted and we made 372 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:09,890 sure that we aren't violating any of the 373 00:16:15,100 --> 00:16:13,010 hundreds of constraints we will review 374 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:15,110 that per group of scientists and 375 00:16:19,210 --> 00:16:17,450 engineers it may be about 40 people and 376 00:16:20,980 --> 00:16:19,220 we're kind of ruthlessly sticking to 377 00:16:23,590 --> 00:16:20,990 this timeline because all this is 378 00:16:26,889 --> 00:16:23,600 leading us to our command opportunity 379 00:16:30,069 --> 00:16:26,899 after having that plan we then turn 380 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:30,079 those into command sequences which is 381 00:16:36,069 --> 00:16:34,250 effectively this software of up to maybe 382 00:16:37,870 --> 00:16:36,079 a thousand commands that are going to be 383 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:37,880 executed to govern exactly what the 384 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:39,890 rover's going to do over the next 385 00:16:44,199 --> 00:16:42,170 Martian day when we prove it to 386 00:16:45,790 --> 00:16:44,209 ourselves we haven't created any issues 387 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:45,800 and that everything will will execute 388 00:16:51,639 --> 00:16:49,970 properly then we approve that and uplink 389 00:16:53,769 --> 00:16:51,649 it and you can see in the graphic the 390 00:16:56,050 --> 00:16:53,779 deadline of what we have to hit that 391 00:16:58,150 --> 00:16:56,060 deadline when we have our communications 392 00:16:59,920 --> 00:16:58,160 opportunity because that's our one time 393 00:17:03,310 --> 00:16:59,930 to really tell the rover what we want it 394 00:17:06,490 --> 00:17:03,320 to do and and get that up there and then 395 00:17:08,740 --> 00:17:06,500 it operates on its own until it can 396 00:17:11,049 --> 00:17:08,750 communicate back in the afternoon the 397 00:17:14,980 --> 00:17:11,059 results of what's happened and so that's 398 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:14,990 the basic cycle that keeps really over a 399 00:17:20,309 --> 00:17:18,290 hundred hundred people busy over that 16 400 00:17:23,230 --> 00:17:20,319 our timeline and really running a sprint 401 00:17:26,309 --> 00:17:23,240 every day to make sure that that we can 402 00:17:29,890 --> 00:17:26,319 be meet that mark and keep the vehicle 403 00:17:31,450 --> 00:17:29,900 productive and gathering science or 404 00:17:34,630 --> 00:17:31,460 doing a flights our flight software 405 00:17:36,890 --> 00:17:34,640 transition so I'll turn it over to Doug 406 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:36,900 thanks Andy um 407 00:17:40,670 --> 00:17:38,730 exactly a week ago I was SAT here and 408 00:17:42,650 --> 00:17:40,680 was introducing you all to a tool called 409 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:42,660 eyes on the solar system which lets you 410 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:44,610 write on board with many the spacecraft 411 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:45,930 that are exploring the solar system and 412 00:17:49,940 --> 00:17:47,730 in particular the the module 413 00:17:52,580 --> 00:17:49,950 specifically made for curiosity's entry 414 00:17:54,290 --> 00:17:52,590 descent and landing and I didn't want to 415 00:17:55,550 --> 00:17:54,300 spoil surprised at that time I didn't 416 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:55,560 show you all the way to landing I didn't 417 00:17:59,840 --> 00:17:56,730 want to spoil things for you but that 418 00:18:00,830 --> 00:17:59,850 surprised it worked and I would come 419 00:18:03,290 --> 00:18:00,840 back just to kind of give you an update 420 00:18:05,210 --> 00:18:03,300 on on how that went how accurate we were 421 00:18:06,710 --> 00:18:05,220 how many people were watching and other 422 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:06,720 things you can still do in eyes on the 423 00:18:11,990 --> 00:18:08,570 solar system now we're on the ground 424 00:18:15,370 --> 00:18:12,000 yesterday Jennifer reported to you are a 425 00:18:19,060 --> 00:18:15,380 touchdown time of on spacecraft time 426 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:19,070 1017 and fifty seven point three seconds 427 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:22,650 the navigation team led by Fernando they 428 00:18:27,230 --> 00:18:24,330 gave us such rejection three weeks ahead 429 00:18:31,430 --> 00:18:27,240 of touchdown and our touchdown time was 430 00:18:33,380 --> 00:18:31,440 ten 1750 7.9 seconds we have six tenths 431 00:18:35,900 --> 00:18:33,390 of a second out in eyes on the solar 432 00:18:37,310 --> 00:18:35,910 system we're very pleased with that most 433 00:18:38,690 --> 00:18:37,320 people were probably having more an 434 00:18:40,580 --> 00:18:38,700 accuracy based on the clock on their own 435 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:40,590 computer rather than their than the 436 00:18:44,930 --> 00:18:43,170 trajectory we had in there I also know 437 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:44,940 thanks Steve Collins one of the the 438 00:18:49,100 --> 00:18:46,410 attitude control engineers who was in 439 00:18:50,830 --> 00:18:49,110 the dark room during landing nighter we 440 00:18:53,450 --> 00:18:50,840 were on console in the afternoon and 441 00:18:54,860 --> 00:18:53,460 steve was furiously gesticulating to us 442 00:18:56,090 --> 00:18:54,870 through the window to tell us that the 443 00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:56,100 other slight tweak for us for the 444 00:19:00,110 --> 00:18:58,050 pointing of the spacecraft and there we 445 00:19:01,730 --> 00:19:00,120 got that in before the big traffic 446 00:19:03,820 --> 00:19:01,740 arrived on eyes on the solar system at 447 00:19:07,610 --> 00:19:03,830 about nine o'clock in the evening 448 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:07,620 between Saturday and Monday we had 973 449 00:19:13,190 --> 00:19:11,490 thousands landing lights alone we had 450 00:19:15,350 --> 00:19:13,200 seven hundred and thirty-nine thousand 451 00:19:17,450 --> 00:19:15,360 visits our servers pushed about 20 452 00:19:19,310 --> 00:19:17,460 terabytes of data over the weekend to 453 00:19:21,230 --> 00:19:19,320 give people this amazing experience of 454 00:19:23,660 --> 00:19:21,240 writing on board with the spacecraft and 455 00:19:25,820 --> 00:19:23,670 it wasn't just those people at home some 456 00:19:28,670 --> 00:19:25,830 of those visits actually kind of doubled 457 00:19:30,290 --> 00:19:28,680 for words we had there was an event at 458 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:30,300 the Deep Space Network down in Canberra 459 00:19:33,530 --> 00:19:32,010 led by Glenn Nagel they were using eyes 460 00:19:35,540 --> 00:19:33,540 on the solar system hundreds of people 461 00:19:37,100 --> 00:19:35,550 who are watching there Phil Plait the 462 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:37,110 bad astronomer he was actually streaming 463 00:19:42,230 --> 00:19:40,050 it live into into a google hangout the 464 00:19:44,930 --> 00:19:42,240 Oregon Museum of Science and Arts Museum 465 00:19:46,580 --> 00:19:44,940 of the organism of science and industry 466 00:19:48,710 --> 00:19:46,590 the museum of arts and sciences in 467 00:19:49,500 --> 00:19:48,720 Georgia and of course planet fest just 468 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:49,510 down the road here 469 00:19:53,070 --> 00:19:51,010 Selena were all using eyes on the solar 470 00:19:55,170 --> 00:19:53,080 system to let people see what was 471 00:19:57,060 --> 00:19:55,180 happening through the evening in total 472 00:19:59,310 --> 00:19:57,070 we've had reports about 65 different 473 00:20:01,260 --> 00:19:59,320 landing events which were using eyes and 474 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:01,270 we've had kind of the statistics on 475 00:20:05,700 --> 00:20:02,530 about half of those which adds up to 476 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:05,710 almost 8,000 extra visitors as well and 477 00:20:08,430 --> 00:20:06,850 we are going to be replacing the 478 00:20:10,290 --> 00:20:08,440 trajectory that was this massive nor 479 00:20:11,610 --> 00:20:10,300 point six seconds off with a 480 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:11,620 reconstruction at some point in the 481 00:20:14,610 --> 00:20:13,210 future once the edl team of her chance 482 00:20:15,930 --> 00:20:14,620 to digest all of this data they'll be 483 00:20:17,250 --> 00:20:15,940 getting back from the various 484 00:20:19,170 --> 00:20:17,260 instruments on board the vehicle during 485 00:20:20,550 --> 00:20:19,180 landing look at that we turn into a 486 00:20:21,780 --> 00:20:20,560 reconstructed trajectory that when we 487 00:20:23,340 --> 00:20:21,790 put into eyes and then we'll let you 488 00:20:25,710 --> 00:20:23,350 know when you can actually see the 489 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:25,720 actual series of events it turns out 490 00:20:30,150 --> 00:20:28,090 we're about one quad away from the 491 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:30,160 actual landing site we're about it where 492 00:20:33,030 --> 00:20:31,690 I think if we were in there I think 493 00:20:35,130 --> 00:20:33,040 we're in quad 64 I don't know how 494 00:20:37,380 --> 00:20:35,140 interesting that is but but once we get 495 00:20:38,700 --> 00:20:37,390 the new new trajectory once you get the 496 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:38,710 new trajectory will we'll put that in 497 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:41,290 but in the meantime there are still 498 00:20:44,670 --> 00:20:43,450 things you can find in eyes there are 499 00:20:46,140 --> 00:20:44,680 still some interesting things and we had 500 00:20:47,850 --> 00:20:46,150 people sending us some of their favorite 501 00:20:50,070 --> 00:20:47,860 things during landing night we can cut 502 00:20:53,700 --> 00:20:50,080 to the live feed one of our favorites 503 00:20:55,260 --> 00:20:53,710 was was this one um it's it's the donut 504 00:20:56,910 --> 00:20:55,270 shop it's people putting the camera 505 00:20:58,950 --> 00:20:56,920 right behind the vehicle just before 506 00:21:02,310 --> 00:20:58,960 cruise stage separation you don't need 507 00:21:04,020 --> 00:21:02,320 two dark them right and we have people 508 00:21:05,220 --> 00:21:04,030 sending us different screenshots of with 509 00:21:07,950 --> 00:21:05,230 kind of things they were doing one guy 510 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:07,960 had a triple wide desktop machine sat on 511 00:21:11,610 --> 00:21:09,850 his desktop watching all of this landing 512 00:21:12,540 --> 00:21:11,620 inside eyes on the solar system I was 513 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:12,550 going to skip through a few of the 514 00:21:15,500 --> 00:21:13,690 things that you can that you can still 515 00:21:18,420 --> 00:21:15,510 have a look at Mike was here yesterday 516 00:21:20,220 --> 00:21:18,430 talking to us about the ballast impact 517 00:21:22,350 --> 00:21:20,230 that was spotted by the CTX camera on 518 00:21:24,930 --> 00:21:22,360 mro here is that ballast leaving the 519 00:21:27,540 --> 00:21:24,940 spacecraft in is a trajectory was given 520 00:21:28,860 --> 00:21:27,550 for all six pieces of ballast and in 521 00:21:31,290 --> 00:21:28,870 fact the the pictures at the back of the 522 00:21:32,580 --> 00:21:31,300 room there but the impact site was I 523 00:21:34,980 --> 00:21:32,590 believe some way around this little Mesa 524 00:21:36,030 --> 00:21:34,990 down here and again when we get the 525 00:21:39,870 --> 00:21:36,040 reconstruction we're going to put that 526 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:39,880 in back here as well touchdown was a 527 00:21:43,890 --> 00:21:41,650 little bit a little bit off by there's 528 00:21:46,140 --> 00:21:43,900 no point six seconds the actual landing 529 00:21:47,670 --> 00:21:46,150 site is not far from here in fact we 530 00:21:50,310 --> 00:21:47,680 zoom out we can actually show you how 531 00:21:51,810 --> 00:21:50,320 how far off we were the real landing 532 00:21:53,910 --> 00:21:51,820 sites just about here so we're not too 533 00:21:56,010 --> 00:21:53,920 far off but we moving this so this 534 00:21:57,750 --> 00:21:56,020 beautiful terrain model to bring it up 535 00:22:00,390 --> 00:21:57,760 to date when we do actually have have 536 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:00,400 that proper location and of course we 537 00:22:03,060 --> 00:22:02,290 even have the the sky crane fly away 538 00:22:04,710 --> 00:22:03,070 that 539 00:22:06,060 --> 00:22:04,720 just by good fortune happen to be in 540 00:22:09,509 --> 00:22:06,070 roughly the same direction as the real 541 00:22:14,940 --> 00:22:09,519 design stage Flyway if it goes to a 542 00:22:18,090 --> 00:22:14,950 polite safe disposal and there's even 543 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:18,100 more if we go to Seoul to you notice 544 00:22:20,690 --> 00:22:19,330 we've we've swapped the river around as 545 00:22:22,649 --> 00:22:20,700 two pointed in the right direction and 546 00:22:24,930 --> 00:22:22,659 we're taking now to the moment in time 547 00:22:26,669 --> 00:22:24,940 when the master was actually deployed on 548 00:22:28,470 --> 00:22:26,679 the afternoon of sold to I'm going to 549 00:22:30,629 --> 00:22:28,480 fast forward because it's a stand that 550 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:30,639 takes about a minute but there is the 551 00:22:35,610 --> 00:22:33,610 stand up and turning around to that to 552 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:35,620 that son the anti son position and of 553 00:22:40,740 --> 00:22:37,450 course you can see Mike's two beautiful 554 00:22:42,029 --> 00:22:40,750 cameras right in there and this doesn't 555 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:42,039 live in isolation of course it lives 556 00:22:45,570 --> 00:22:43,210 with all the other spacecraft in our 557 00:22:47,190 --> 00:22:45,580 solar system so if we leave the edl 558 00:22:49,139 --> 00:22:47,200 module you can see the whole of the 559 00:22:51,029 --> 00:22:49,149 solar system others can go back to Mars 560 00:22:52,919 --> 00:22:51,039 and to the present moment of time which 561 00:22:54,810 --> 00:22:52,929 is right now this is where things are 562 00:22:56,850 --> 00:22:54,820 right now you can see curiosity in the 563 00:22:59,310 --> 00:22:56,860 landing site right here in Gale Crater 564 00:23:01,440 --> 00:22:59,320 it's nighttime right there now but we 565 00:23:03,450 --> 00:23:01,450 have odyssey we have mro and so in eyes 566 00:23:05,369 --> 00:23:03,460 I mean Emily something a question a few 567 00:23:07,049 --> 00:23:05,379 days ago is there a table lookup table 568 00:23:08,279 --> 00:23:07,059 of communication passes and I 569 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:08,289 something's all actually you can find 570 00:23:12,779 --> 00:23:10,450 them right in here if you fast forward 571 00:23:14,159 --> 00:23:12,789 through time you can see as the planet 572 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:14,169 rotates underneath you see the two 573 00:23:17,669 --> 00:23:16,330 orbiters going overhead and so that 574 00:23:18,990 --> 00:23:17,679 would be a communications past there is 575 00:23:20,879 --> 00:23:19,000 mr guys have head another one for 576 00:23:23,159 --> 00:23:20,889 odyssey right there every two hours or 577 00:23:26,399 --> 00:23:23,169 so these spacecraft sir fly over the 578 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:26,409 landing site and then when you get the 579 00:23:31,830 --> 00:23:27,970 sunrise of course we can that we can go 580 00:23:34,409 --> 00:23:31,840 into the landing site and there we can 581 00:23:38,909 --> 00:23:34,419 see the sun rise in the east right next 582 00:23:40,470 --> 00:23:38,919 to mount sharp and so all these things 583 00:23:42,990 --> 00:23:40,480 are people things that people can still 584 00:23:44,009 --> 00:23:43,000 do at home and and we'll have news for 585 00:23:45,330 --> 00:23:44,019 you when we get this reconstructed 586 00:23:47,220 --> 00:23:45,340 directory probably in a few weeks time 587 00:23:49,379 --> 00:23:47,230 with that i'll throw it back to Veronica 588 00:23:51,180 --> 00:23:49,389 alright thank you we will start with 589 00:23:53,009 --> 00:23:51,190 questions here at JPL and then we will 590 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:53,019 go to some questions on the phone line 591 00:23:59,129 --> 00:23:54,970 I'm going to start here in the middle 592 00:24:01,769 --> 00:23:59,139 and then we'll go over to Leo's well to 593 00:24:03,180 --> 00:24:01,779 real quick ones Mike the colors that 594 00:24:05,220 --> 00:24:03,190 you're showing us in these images are 595 00:24:08,639 --> 00:24:05,230 they natural color or white balance 596 00:24:11,190 --> 00:24:08,649 color there you want me to answer them 597 00:24:13,980 --> 00:24:11,200 one of the they are not white balance 598 00:24:15,509 --> 00:24:13,990 there what the camera sent back I just 599 00:24:16,830 --> 00:24:15,519 brightened it up because the 600 00:24:19,110 --> 00:24:16,840 illumination at mar 601 00:24:21,779 --> 00:24:19,120 is much less than at Earth and we were 602 00:24:23,279 --> 00:24:21,789 concerned when we set the exposures to 603 00:24:24,870 --> 00:24:23,289 be able to make sure that there if there 604 00:24:28,740 --> 00:24:24,880 was something glinting that we didn't 605 00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:28,750 saturate the detector so the images were 606 00:24:33,269 --> 00:24:31,120 pretty underexposed for a normal 607 00:24:35,039 --> 00:24:33,279 photographer so I just brighten them up 608 00:24:37,860 --> 00:24:35,049 and that's just what the bear filter 609 00:24:40,740 --> 00:24:37,870 gives you when you look at Mars and and 610 00:24:43,380 --> 00:24:40,750 for Doug since you simulated the flyaway 611 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:43,390 of the sky crane can you estimate the 612 00:24:49,260 --> 00:24:46,450 angle at which it struck the surface I 613 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:49,270 can eyeball it I'm sure the edl team 614 00:24:54,149 --> 00:24:50,770 will be on a panel tomorrow they give 615 00:24:55,620 --> 00:24:54,159 you a better answer them it's a I would 616 00:24:57,090 --> 00:24:55,630 something around 45 degrees I'd have 617 00:24:59,070 --> 00:24:57,100 guessed but that is just a kind of an 618 00:25:02,960 --> 00:24:59,080 eyeball gas based on this the edl thing 619 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:05,220 let's see we've got one question up here 620 00:25:09,750 --> 00:25:08,770 in the front and then we'll go to one on 621 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:09,760 the phone line and then I'll come back 622 00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:13,210 to you leo thanks Jonathan Amos from BBC 623 00:25:18,810 --> 00:25:16,960 for Mike again you just compare what you 624 00:25:21,899 --> 00:25:18,820 have got with what you you will got give 625 00:25:23,909 --> 00:25:21,909 us a sense of just how much bigger in 626 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:23,919 terms of you know scaleless this other 627 00:25:27,659 --> 00:25:25,450 images when you get the whole thing and 628 00:25:30,060 --> 00:25:27,669 will you sort of fill in the top as well 629 00:25:32,940 --> 00:25:30,070 so you've got the the data volume will 630 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:32,950 be 64 times larger because these are 18 631 00:25:43,019 --> 00:25:37,210 sub down the resolution will be 8 times 632 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:43,029 better so these are extremely reduced 633 00:25:47,970 --> 00:25:45,970 versions of what we were getting in a in 634 00:25:49,919 --> 00:25:47,980 a sense you may know we originally 635 00:25:53,250 --> 00:25:49,929 proposed zoom lenses so I'm basically 636 00:25:55,950 --> 00:25:53,260 giving you a slow motion zoom we've got 637 00:25:56,789 --> 00:25:55,960 it so we got a low resolution camera 638 00:25:58,950 --> 00:25:56,799 then we're going to take a higher 639 00:26:00,630 --> 00:25:58,960 resolution camera and eventually we'll 640 00:26:02,820 --> 00:26:00,640 use the hundred millimeter lens and 641 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:02,830 that'll get you even closer but for now 642 00:26:07,710 --> 00:26:05,610 this is a this was pretty enough and 643 00:26:12,289 --> 00:26:07,720 interesting enough that we thought it 644 00:26:17,669 --> 00:26:16,470 we haven't filled in the top and we 645 00:26:19,649 --> 00:26:17,679 actually have let you saw there's some 646 00:26:22,620 --> 00:26:19,659 gaps in the bottom as well those are not 647 00:26:25,799 --> 00:26:22,630 really in the plan right now this is the 648 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:25,809 first we hope will get many others and 649 00:26:29,940 --> 00:26:28,210 we hope at some point it will be guided 650 00:26:32,310 --> 00:26:29,950 by science and not by 651 00:26:34,529 --> 00:26:32,320 just taking a random picture this one 652 00:26:40,500 --> 00:26:34,539 had to be planned this one was planned 653 00:26:42,570 --> 00:26:40,510 in in November last year so what you see 654 00:26:44,250 --> 00:26:42,580 is what I thought thought and it was 655 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:44,260 completely independent of where the 656 00:26:50,129 --> 00:26:46,570 vehicle is pointing or anything else so 657 00:26:51,990 --> 00:26:50,139 it's a it's a random shot where you sit 658 00:26:55,470 --> 00:26:52,000 you land you turn take a picture around 659 00:26:59,039 --> 00:26:55,480 you land or you you you be swirl your 660 00:27:01,529 --> 00:26:59,049 tripod and take a picture it's probably 661 00:27:03,899 --> 00:27:01,539 not the best pointed it's probably not 662 00:27:07,009 --> 00:27:03,909 does it include everything you'd want 663 00:27:09,659 --> 00:27:07,019 we're hoping as we move out of the 664 00:27:11,820 --> 00:27:09,669 characterization activity phase that we 665 00:27:15,060 --> 00:27:11,830 can start putting in and getting better 666 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:15,070 things yeah let me add one thing about 667 00:27:18,539 --> 00:27:16,570 that because Mike raises a good point 668 00:27:20,009 --> 00:27:18,549 most of the activities that we've 669 00:27:22,139 --> 00:27:20,019 executed in this characterization 670 00:27:25,379 --> 00:27:22,149 activity phase cap phase we call it 671 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:25,389 we're actually uploaded to the vehicle a 672 00:27:28,830 --> 00:27:27,010 couple of months ago actually in cruise 673 00:27:29,940 --> 00:27:28,840 and that's partly because we wanted to 674 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:29,950 check them out very carefully on the 675 00:27:32,250 --> 00:27:30,970 test fit and make sure they're one 676 00:27:33,450 --> 00:27:32,260 hundred percent guaranteed to work here 677 00:27:35,220 --> 00:27:33,460 in the early days of the mission there's 678 00:27:37,470 --> 00:27:35,230 some unusual first time activities and 679 00:27:38,940 --> 00:27:37,480 we want to check them all out but also 680 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:38,950 means we had to pre build them before we 681 00:27:41,669 --> 00:27:40,450 knew exactly what to look at right we 682 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:41,679 didn't know exactly where Mount sharp 683 00:27:45,509 --> 00:27:43,690 was going to be and things like that but 684 00:27:48,539 --> 00:27:45,519 in addition you know Andy talked about 685 00:27:50,220 --> 00:27:48,549 about his team working on the on this 686 00:27:52,350 --> 00:27:50,230 tactical timeline that's very pressing 687 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:52,360 so we also wanted to reduce the workload 688 00:27:56,009 --> 00:27:54,010 you know we're trying to flex our 689 00:27:57,629 --> 00:27:56,019 muscles very slowly on the rover and 690 00:27:59,549 --> 00:27:57,639 we're trying to flex some a little bit 691 00:28:00,870 --> 00:27:59,559 slowly on the team as well so we want to 692 00:28:01,919 --> 00:28:00,880 have more stuff pre built so that we 693 00:28:03,570 --> 00:28:01,929 didn't have to build you know right as 694 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:03,580 much of that program as any was saying 695 00:28:07,259 --> 00:28:06,250 each night so as Mike indicated you know 696 00:28:09,090 --> 00:28:07,269 these are these are kind of the 697 00:28:10,590 --> 00:28:09,100 pre-canned activities and now that we 698 00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:10,600 can optimize we know where we are and we 699 00:28:14,549 --> 00:28:12,130 can we can we can do more optimal 700 00:28:17,159 --> 00:28:14,559 targeting coming up here shortly I can 701 00:28:20,310 --> 00:28:17,169 add that in the in the cap intermission 702 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:20,320 which you've heard about and I think I 703 00:28:24,539 --> 00:28:21,610 had a question from since from the 704 00:28:27,509 --> 00:28:24,549 audience that we do have some mosaics 705 00:28:29,879 --> 00:28:27,519 that we are going to be able to move a 706 00:28:32,509 --> 00:28:29,889 little bit they were they were planned 707 00:28:36,180 --> 00:28:32,519 to be moved we have a placeholder 708 00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:36,190 positions and as we get into the phase 709 00:28:41,070 --> 00:28:38,110 where we can do that which is after the 710 00:28:42,779 --> 00:28:41,080 software update which is critically 711 00:28:43,049 --> 00:28:42,789 important to us as well as just the 712 00:28:46,619 --> 00:28:43,059 running 713 00:28:48,239 --> 00:28:46,629 the vehicle then we will move them 714 00:28:49,919 --> 00:28:48,249 around and one of those we hope to shoot 715 00:28:52,590 --> 00:28:49,929 with a hundred we don't haven't taken 716 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:52,600 any 100 millimeter focal length camera 717 00:28:57,539 --> 00:28:55,210 images yet and they're not there are 718 00:28:59,460 --> 00:28:57,549 none that were preloaded to the vehicle 719 00:29:01,200 --> 00:28:59,470 so there's still that instrument that 720 00:29:02,999 --> 00:29:01,210 needs to be checked out and we're going 721 00:29:06,749 --> 00:29:03,009 to try to shoot the mouth sharp with 722 00:29:10,169 --> 00:29:06,759 that okay we're going next to the phone 723 00:29:12,269 --> 00:29:10,179 line Denise Chow space com go ahead hi 724 00:29:14,659 --> 00:29:12,279 thanks for taking my question I think 725 00:29:17,759 --> 00:29:14,669 this is probably for either Mike or dawn 726 00:29:19,769 --> 00:29:17,769 with the color panorama are there 727 00:29:22,109 --> 00:29:19,779 certain features that are you're better 728 00:29:23,220 --> 00:29:22,119 able to see with the color as opposed to 729 00:29:24,899 --> 00:29:23,230 black and white and are there things 730 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:24,909 that you didn't notice at first set that 731 00:29:32,119 --> 00:29:27,730 came through in the color shots you 732 00:29:36,210 --> 00:29:32,129 wanna tell me wouldn't you take it um 733 00:29:37,769 --> 00:29:36,220 because color and an albedo color and 734 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:37,779 brightness on Mars are often very 735 00:29:45,090 --> 00:29:41,970 closely correlated I don't see anything 736 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:45,100 personally in the color that I didn't 737 00:29:52,289 --> 00:29:48,970 see in the the grayscale image but I'm 738 00:29:54,359 --> 00:29:52,299 trained I know what to look for and for 739 00:29:57,359 --> 00:29:54,369 I think the importance of this mosaic 740 00:29:59,609 --> 00:29:57,369 really at this point is that it can show 741 00:30:03,180 --> 00:29:59,619 everybody can see the differences and 742 00:30:06,869 --> 00:30:03,190 the color just the discolorations that 743 00:30:10,379 --> 00:30:06,879 you see around the rocket plumerias and 744 00:30:14,100 --> 00:30:10,389 the the color and brightness a--'s of 745 00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:14,110 the rocks in Mount sharp in there in the 746 00:30:18,810 --> 00:30:17,049 in the far field those are indicative of 747 00:30:20,430 --> 00:30:18,820 real differences we're not sure what the 748 00:30:22,499 --> 00:30:20,440 differences are but they're real 749 00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:22,509 differences and they're much more easily 750 00:30:28,710 --> 00:30:26,110 seen in color the human perception 751 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:28,720 system can discriminate something on the 752 00:30:33,749 --> 00:30:31,090 order of a thousand different colors but 753 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:33,759 only about 60 different gray scales so 754 00:30:38,759 --> 00:30:37,090 the this this gives you a thousand you 755 00:30:42,570 --> 00:30:38,769 know thousand to 60 information that 756 00:30:44,050 --> 00:30:42,580 factor of 10 more information you want 757 00:30:46,090 --> 00:30:44,060 to try 758 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:46,100 I will say that the engineering team it 759 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:47,930 was a little easier to see the dust and 760 00:30:52,350 --> 00:30:50,090 on the rover in the color image than it 761 00:30:55,750 --> 00:30:52,360 was on the in the in the black and white 762 00:30:58,570 --> 00:30:55,760 are we going next to Leo a night with 763 00:31:00,400 --> 00:30:58,580 Irish television these briefings take 764 00:31:01,900 --> 00:31:00,410 place just as the evening newscasts are 765 00:31:05,380 --> 00:31:01,910 going out in Europe so timing is 766 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:05,390 important for us could you I had in my 767 00:31:10,210 --> 00:31:07,850 mind that this full res pan would be 768 00:31:12,460 --> 00:31:10,220 available tomorrow that doesn't sound 769 00:31:15,790 --> 00:31:12,470 correct now so I wonder could you be 770 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:15,800 specific as to when you think in days of 771 00:31:21,010 --> 00:31:18,530 Earth days when you think that pan would 772 00:31:23,650 --> 00:31:21,020 be available and also when you think we 773 00:31:27,460 --> 00:31:23,660 might get a olas moms in fuller at Mount 774 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:27,470 sharp in full in terms of Earth days and 775 00:31:33,010 --> 00:31:30,050 if I could just a supplementary how tall 776 00:31:36,300 --> 00:31:33,020 r is the rim of the crater that we're 777 00:31:38,950 --> 00:31:36,310 seeing I mean how high are those cliffs 778 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:38,960 there are lots of parts of that i'm 779 00:31:45,340 --> 00:31:40,730 going to try address some of them Leo 780 00:31:48,490 --> 00:31:45,350 but I don't think I can do it all the I 781 00:31:52,150 --> 00:31:48,500 don't think we're going to see more than 782 00:31:55,810 --> 00:31:52,160 a couple of dozen of the full resolution 783 00:32:01,630 --> 00:31:55,820 images from this panorama until after 784 00:32:04,420 --> 00:32:01,640 the software upload and it really 785 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:04,430 depends because that's all we're putting 786 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:06,890 commands to low the hell the idea here 787 00:32:11,260 --> 00:32:09,250 is you take pictures with your camera 788 00:32:13,300 --> 00:32:11,270 there in your camera what do you do with 789 00:32:15,370 --> 00:32:13,310 them well you physically take the card 790 00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:15,380 out you put it into your computer well I 791 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:17,510 can't do that with my cameras so I have 792 00:32:22,210 --> 00:32:19,730 to I have to I have to ask the rover to 793 00:32:25,180 --> 00:32:22,220 go get them and put it and we've only 794 00:32:28,020 --> 00:32:25,190 put in a request to do something like 20 795 00:32:31,450 --> 00:32:28,030 24 images to pull them out of the card 796 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:31,460 and we and today is the last solid we 797 00:32:37,270 --> 00:32:33,770 have to be up linking commands for that 798 00:32:39,310 --> 00:32:37,280 so that's fine with me we get past that 799 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:39,320 point now we're going to we get in a 800 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:43,250 couple of five Sol's we get to get some 801 00:32:49,300 --> 00:32:46,850 more back we are also limited by 802 00:32:53,830 --> 00:32:49,310 bandwidth you know these are the the 803 00:32:56,930 --> 00:32:53,840 full images are going to be 24 megabits 804 00:33:00,650 --> 00:32:56,940 each they're there to two bits per pixel 805 00:33:02,570 --> 00:33:00,660 and so that's a large volume 130 of 806 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:02,580 those frames that's you know that's 807 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:04,410 getting up to the several hundreds of 808 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:07,770 gigabytes of megabits some of the things 809 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:10,410 things are going to take on during cap 810 00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:12,570 that's going to run into the into the 811 00:33:16,610 --> 00:33:14,880 gigabits and I'm not expecting to see 812 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:16,620 many of those come back for quite a 813 00:33:23,170 --> 00:33:19,050 while we don't have the bandwidth like a 814 00:33:25,340 --> 00:33:23,180 dsl or cable so so there's that issue 815 00:33:28,790 --> 00:33:25,350 you had what was the last part of your 816 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:28,800 question about Oh hide hide about the 817 00:33:33,110 --> 00:33:31,410 the crater wall there are two parts with 818 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:33,120 a problem with the crater wall the 819 00:33:40,730 --> 00:33:35,850 create these northern crater wall is 820 00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:40,740 actually lower than the peak of Mount 821 00:33:45,170 --> 00:33:43,710 sharp and the the northern wall which we 822 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:45,180 can't see because mouth sharpen is way 823 00:33:50,420 --> 00:33:47,610 is is probably a little about about 824 00:33:53,450 --> 00:33:50,430 level with them so we are obviously 825 00:33:56,060 --> 00:33:53,460 below the height of that wall but it's 826 00:33:58,100 --> 00:33:56,070 because we're not seeing out from it but 827 00:34:00,710 --> 00:33:58,110 it's probably for my recollection it's 828 00:34:04,730 --> 00:34:00,720 only about two kilometers higher than 829 00:34:06,380 --> 00:34:04,740 where we are right now okay we're going 830 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:06,390 to go to the phone next and then we will 831 00:34:10,370 --> 00:34:07,890 come to a question in the room keys can 832 00:34:12,860 --> 00:34:10,380 go ahead keep counting guess watch calm 833 00:34:15,620 --> 00:34:12,870 question for michael watkins or anybody 834 00:34:17,030 --> 00:34:15,630 else who might answer I'm several these 835 00:34:19,220 --> 00:34:17,040 photos that have come down there's the 836 00:34:20,300 --> 00:34:19,230 augmented reality or a our tags I've 837 00:34:23,060 --> 00:34:20,310 seen several they look like little 838 00:34:24,590 --> 00:34:23,070 pixelated versions of the rover in the 839 00:34:26,300 --> 00:34:24,600 captions they say that they're going to 840 00:34:30,020 --> 00:34:26,310 be used with the future apps with 841 00:34:32,510 --> 00:34:30,030 smartphones two questions is there a nap 842 00:34:34,700 --> 00:34:32,520 under development by JPL and if so when 843 00:34:35,930 --> 00:34:34,710 are you going to release it second of 844 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:35,940 all are these going to be you know 845 00:34:39,380 --> 00:34:37,770 closed apps where they just get pushed 846 00:34:41,750 --> 00:34:39,390 out or you can attempt to make these 847 00:34:43,130 --> 00:34:41,760 open like Google Earth and so forth so 848 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:43,140 that other people could take the data 849 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:44,610 and add on to it and create their own 850 00:34:49,820 --> 00:34:47,610 versions Keith I can take that one so 851 00:34:51,410 --> 00:34:49,830 I'm not sure the specific timeline for 852 00:34:54,500 --> 00:34:51,420 the the app that's going to use the the 853 00:34:56,930 --> 00:34:54,510 AR tags it's something that is in 854 00:34:59,570 --> 00:34:56,940 progress you're probably best putting a 855 00:35:01,070 --> 00:34:59,580 question to Mars EPO for that but there 856 00:35:04,100 --> 00:35:01,080 are other experiences already online 857 00:35:05,540 --> 00:35:04,110 there is a free drive online experience 858 00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:05,550 there is experience to see where 859 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:06,960 curiosity is and see what it's getting 860 00:35:09,970 --> 00:35:09,090 up to want to learn about the rover as 861 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:09,980 well 862 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:11,570 and the be a Martian app but the beer 863 00:35:14,530 --> 00:35:13,010 Martian apps already open source and I 864 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:14,540 believe there is a work in progress to 865 00:35:18,130 --> 00:35:15,770 open source all of these other ones as 866 00:35:22,300 --> 00:35:18,140 well so I hope that answers your 867 00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:22,310 question okay in the room here we're 868 00:35:28,390 --> 00:35:25,040 gonna go here in the middle thank you 869 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:28,400 Steve Gorman with Reuters one for size 870 00:35:31,450 --> 00:35:30,290 one was the color panorama images that 871 00:35:33,070 --> 00:35:31,460 you're showing today that when were 872 00:35:36,810 --> 00:35:33,080 these taken these are taking on Sol 3 873 00:35:41,260 --> 00:35:36,820 during south rear these were taken 874 00:35:43,660 --> 00:35:41,270 eleven o'clock last night here p.m. PDT 875 00:35:45,910 --> 00:35:43,670 alright so that would be Sol 3 4 market 876 00:35:48,700 --> 00:35:45,920 yourself three on my three bars okay and 877 00:35:50,290 --> 00:35:48,710 then also what would it and those what 878 00:35:51,670 --> 00:35:50,300 health checks were done on the same run 879 00:35:53,109 --> 00:35:51,680 the same time frame the same day you 880 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:53,119 said that you checked out a number of 881 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:54,890 instruments and and also one of you to 882 00:35:57,790 --> 00:35:56,570 tell us that at this point what 883 00:35:59,170 --> 00:35:57,800 instruments have now been sort of 884 00:36:00,580 --> 00:35:59,180 checked in are there a number of 885 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:00,590 instruments you sort of now checked and 886 00:36:05,950 --> 00:36:04,010 and there we've deemed him so far to be 887 00:36:07,870 --> 00:36:05,960 okay they're operable and functioning 888 00:36:09,070 --> 00:36:07,880 are well so I think for the first 889 00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:09,080 question was where they all done the 890 00:36:12,430 --> 00:36:10,730 same salt yeah everything I listed with 891 00:36:17,190 --> 00:36:12,440 assault three activity that the online 892 00:36:20,859 --> 00:36:17,200 RC check out the apxs Dan chemin and Sam 893 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:20,869 health checks and they had both the nav 894 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:25,010 cam and the mass cam 360 pounds that was 895 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:25,970 all done those are all solved three 896 00:36:31,060 --> 00:36:29,090 activities the other question 1 which 897 00:36:34,599 --> 00:36:31,070 instrument I've been checked out so so 898 00:36:36,310 --> 00:36:34,609 they've all been checked out but but but 899 00:36:38,410 --> 00:36:36,320 there are different levels of checking 900 00:36:40,570 --> 00:36:38,420 them out you know we do a if i if i turn 901 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:40,580 the circuitry on does electricity flow 902 00:36:44,099 --> 00:36:42,050 all through it you know is it you know 903 00:36:46,420 --> 00:36:44,109 is it is it is it basically working 904 00:36:47,950 --> 00:36:46,430 there was some mechanical checkouts for 905 00:36:49,540 --> 00:36:47,960 example inside Sam that have not been 906 00:36:52,060 --> 00:36:49,550 conducted connect can I move things 907 00:36:53,740 --> 00:36:52,070 around inside Sam mechanically those 908 00:36:55,570 --> 00:36:53,750 have not been done yet and then the 909 00:36:57,430 --> 00:36:55,580 scientific characterization you know the 910 00:36:59,020 --> 00:36:57,440 calibration and the full performance of 911 00:37:00,760 --> 00:36:59,030 the science instruments has not been 912 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:00,770 conducted yet so what you know we're 913 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:02,210 kind of just starting off slowly here 914 00:37:04,660 --> 00:37:03,530 making sure they all turn on and they 915 00:37:06,940 --> 00:37:04,670 all execute their you know their their 916 00:37:08,170 --> 00:37:06,950 first level functionality and in some 917 00:37:09,370 --> 00:37:08,180 cases we actually have that in science 918 00:37:11,260 --> 00:37:09,380 the rad instrument is working quite well 919 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:11,270 I think Don Hossler talked about that 920 00:37:14,980 --> 00:37:12,770 you know we're getting images from from 921 00:37:17,109 --> 00:37:14,990 Mike's cameras you know so we're 922 00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:17,119 starting to you know to unroll the 923 00:37:21,250 --> 00:37:19,250 science slowly but there are these more 924 00:37:22,890 --> 00:37:21,260 advanced modes of the instruments still 925 00:37:25,140 --> 00:37:22,900 to be to be looked at 926 00:37:26,519 --> 00:37:25,150 alright thank you okay we've got one 927 00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:26,529 more caller on the line and then we'll 928 00:37:30,839 --> 00:37:27,730 come back to the room will go over now 929 00:37:32,789 --> 00:37:30,849 to en O'Neill with discovery news hi 930 00:37:34,890 --> 00:37:32,799 there it's this questions really for 931 00:37:37,349 --> 00:37:34,900 remote Watkins I was just wondering 932 00:37:41,039 --> 00:37:37,359 about the debris on top of on the deck 933 00:37:44,010 --> 00:37:41,049 of curiosity firstly what why wasn't it 934 00:37:46,559 --> 00:37:44,020 anticipated that that every of that size 935 00:37:47,609 --> 00:37:46,569 would be on top of the rover also are 936 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:47,619 there any instruments that are 937 00:37:52,819 --> 00:37:49,210 vulnerable to it and will there be any 938 00:37:55,589 --> 00:37:52,829 follow-up study and also will these 939 00:37:58,740 --> 00:37:55,599 these pieces at every remain on the deck 940 00:38:01,829 --> 00:37:58,750 for the duration of the mission ok so 941 00:38:03,690 --> 00:38:01,839 you it was not predicted because the you 942 00:38:05,339 --> 00:38:03,700 know the propulsion folks and the you 943 00:38:06,809 --> 00:38:05,349 know the edl team they tried to figure 944 00:38:08,579 --> 00:38:06,819 out how much the pressure you know 945 00:38:10,319 --> 00:38:08,589 exerted by the engine exhaust would be 946 00:38:12,230 --> 00:38:10,329 on the Martian surface and they took a 947 00:38:14,700 --> 00:38:12,240 guess at the range of particle sizes and 948 00:38:16,890 --> 00:38:14,710 you know the date they simulated that 949 00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:16,900 and and they felt that probably wouldn't 950 00:38:20,010 --> 00:38:18,730 kick up things this big so obviously 951 00:38:22,349 --> 00:38:20,020 that means these materials lighter than 952 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:22,359 expected or the exhaust was a little you 953 00:38:26,309 --> 00:38:24,490 know was a little stronger than expected 954 00:38:28,380 --> 00:38:26,319 or closer to the ground and expected or 955 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:28,390 something like that but but let's let 956 00:38:30,900 --> 00:38:29,890 them look at it for a while and come 957 00:38:33,180 --> 00:38:30,910 back with a you know with a full 958 00:38:35,460 --> 00:38:33,190 explanation we don't think they have any 959 00:38:36,660 --> 00:38:35,470 impact on us right now that there were 960 00:38:39,059 --> 00:38:36,670 some potential things you know could 961 00:38:41,730 --> 00:38:39,069 have landed on top of you know the rad 962 00:38:44,819 --> 00:38:41,740 instrument detector for example but you 963 00:38:45,870 --> 00:38:44,829 saw done Hassler's results yesterday and 964 00:38:47,190 --> 00:38:45,880 they look fine and so there's no 965 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:47,200 indication there's a problem we look at 966 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:49,210 the deck and we don't see any anything 967 00:38:53,910 --> 00:38:52,210 like that so some of our other 968 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:53,920 instruments could have could have you 969 00:38:58,529 --> 00:38:56,650 know been impacted by a buy one of these 970 00:39:00,029 --> 00:38:58,539 little buy one of these pebbles but we 971 00:39:01,470 --> 00:39:00,039 haven't seen any evidence of that yet so 972 00:39:02,849 --> 00:39:01,480 as far as we know via the instrument 973 00:39:05,849 --> 00:39:02,859 checkouts they didn't hit anything and 974 00:39:07,170 --> 00:39:05,859 in terms of mechanically obstructing you 975 00:39:08,609 --> 00:39:07,180 know any of the things on the rover 976 00:39:13,319 --> 00:39:08,619 though there's there's there's no 977 00:39:14,460 --> 00:39:13,329 problem with that at all okay back in 978 00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:14,470 the previous question brother was how 979 00:39:17,250 --> 00:39:15,730 long are they gonna last we don't know i 980 00:39:18,809 --> 00:39:17,260 think when we start tilting around they 981 00:39:23,460 --> 00:39:18,819 some of them will probably move around 982 00:39:24,870 --> 00:39:23,470 and fall off okay hi this is a mark 983 00:39:26,819 --> 00:39:24,880 kaufman of the washington post in 984 00:39:29,819 --> 00:39:26,829 National Geographic a question for any 985 00:39:31,799 --> 00:39:29,829 Michigan you had said that on a daily 986 00:39:33,940 --> 00:39:31,809 basis you're sending a thousand commands 987 00:39:35,650 --> 00:39:33,950 or so up to the 988 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:35,660 up to curiosity have there been any 989 00:39:40,060 --> 00:39:37,970 anomalies or is this something that is 990 00:39:43,420 --> 00:39:40,070 going you know that it's just reading it 991 00:39:47,050 --> 00:39:43,430 in a kind of near perfect way well I 992 00:39:48,550 --> 00:39:47,060 will say that in this early set of Sol's 993 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:48,560 with some of these things that are 994 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:50,210 already on board the number and the 995 00:39:55,180 --> 00:39:52,970 commands being actually uploaded every 996 00:39:58,210 --> 00:39:55,190 solve is a little bit below that that 997 00:39:59,530 --> 00:39:58,220 actually is representative of really the 998 00:40:01,270 --> 00:39:59,540 combination of the things we're 999 00:40:04,060 --> 00:40:01,280 uploading and and some of these things 1000 00:40:05,650 --> 00:40:04,070 we have onboard well we anticipate we'll 1001 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:05,660 have something of that order when we're 1002 00:40:09,069 --> 00:40:07,970 fully and then in the nominal process 1003 00:40:12,069 --> 00:40:09,079 where we don't have any of this 1004 00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:12,079 pre-built stuff but we we aren't really 1005 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:15,250 having any any trouble getting you know 1006 00:40:21,940 --> 00:40:17,690 getting things on board we've had you 1007 00:40:24,970 --> 00:40:21,950 know some small shakedown issues just 1008 00:40:27,010 --> 00:40:24,980 related to getting in in the habit that 1009 00:40:30,450 --> 00:40:27,020 we haven't had any any serious issues 1010 00:40:33,790 --> 00:40:30,460 getting our commands on board I could 1011 00:40:35,829 --> 00:40:33,800 you were in the diagram to show that 1012 00:40:38,770 --> 00:40:35,839 both Odyssey and Amaro were being used 1013 00:40:41,890 --> 00:40:38,780 in terms of transmission how about the 1014 00:40:44,230 --> 00:40:41,900 the European satellite is is that 1015 00:40:47,020 --> 00:40:44,240 something that can and will be used well 1016 00:40:50,140 --> 00:40:47,030 we do have had plans I not sure exactly 1017 00:40:57,550 --> 00:40:50,150 which saw to to work with mex but that 1018 00:40:59,870 --> 00:40:57,560 has not been used to date go over here 1019 00:41:04,309 --> 00:40:59,880 on the Isle 1020 00:41:05,650 --> 00:41:04,319 I have two questions first for us Emily 1021 00:41:08,660 --> 00:41:05,660 locked a wall at the Planetary Society 1022 00:41:10,309 --> 00:41:08,670 for Mike what kind of downlink data 1023 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:10,319 rates are you achieving from the rover 1024 00:41:13,579 --> 00:41:11,970 right now and when are you going to be 1025 00:41:15,140 --> 00:41:13,589 able to ramp up to the 2 megabits per 1026 00:41:20,329 --> 00:41:15,150 second that we're talking about with 1027 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:20,339 this Mike I'm sorry you know we've we've 1028 00:41:26,660 --> 00:41:23,490 we've been up to to a few hundred K data 1029 00:41:28,430 --> 00:41:26,670 rates so far we started off very low we 1030 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:28,440 start off at 8k and 32 k and then we 1031 00:41:34,670 --> 00:41:31,170 ramp those up slowly as each of them you 1032 00:41:37,220 --> 00:41:34,680 know proves successful probably in a 1033 00:41:39,289 --> 00:41:37,230 week or so we're going to continue to 1034 00:41:40,759 --> 00:41:39,299 increase those data rates and and turn 1035 00:41:44,269 --> 00:41:40,769 on with the specific question was a 1036 00:41:46,430 --> 00:41:44,279 adaptive data rate so so mro the radio 1037 00:41:48,230 --> 00:41:46,440 on tomorrow and the radio on on MSL they 1038 00:41:50,089 --> 00:41:48,240 can they can dynamically adjust the data 1039 00:41:51,859 --> 00:41:50,099 rate so when the link is very strong 1040 00:41:53,660 --> 00:41:51,869 when the road when the when amuro is 1041 00:41:55,220 --> 00:41:53,670 very high in the sky you can up the data 1042 00:41:57,829 --> 00:41:55,230 rate to the maximum amount up to about 2 1043 00:42:00,680 --> 00:41:57,839 megabits per second and so as we 1044 00:42:01,910 --> 00:42:00,690 continue to progress through the you 1045 00:42:03,499 --> 00:42:01,920 know through the data rates well we'll 1046 00:42:06,529 --> 00:42:03,509 get to that probably you know in a week 1047 00:42:07,579 --> 00:42:06,539 or two we're being a little bit cautious 1048 00:42:10,759 --> 00:42:07,589 here because of the flight software 1049 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:10,769 transition but you know McMillan was 1050 00:42:13,849 --> 00:42:12,210 talking about the about the backlog of 1051 00:42:15,380 --> 00:42:13,859 data and it's pretty important to us to 1052 00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:15,390 check out the telecom system very 1053 00:42:19,069 --> 00:42:17,609 carefully and very fully so that we can 1054 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:19,079 up these data rates and get more of the 1055 00:42:23,359 --> 00:42:21,690 data cleared out you know of the camera 1056 00:42:26,180 --> 00:42:23,369 buffers where they can stick it store 1057 00:42:27,710 --> 00:42:26,190 gigabytes of data and so we're trying to 1058 00:42:29,450 --> 00:42:27,720 get the data rates up as fast as we can 1059 00:42:32,509 --> 00:42:29,460 but we're kind of pausing during the 1060 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:32,519 flight software transition and then for 1061 00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:34,410 male in my impression from both the nav 1062 00:42:38,210 --> 00:42:36,089 cam and the mask em images is that this 1063 00:42:39,859 --> 00:42:38,220 is a much more colorful place than we've 1064 00:42:41,779 --> 00:42:39,869 ever landed before is that a correct 1065 00:42:45,259 --> 00:42:41,789 impression and can you speak to what 1066 00:42:47,690 --> 00:42:45,269 that means scientifically that's my 1067 00:42:49,910 --> 00:42:47,700 impression as well but I've spent 1068 00:42:52,039 --> 00:42:49,920 actually almost no time looking at the 1069 00:42:53,839 --> 00:42:52,049 naf cam and I just you know just solve 1070 00:42:59,539 --> 00:42:53,849 this thing when I came in very early 1071 00:43:01,430 --> 00:42:59,549 this morning some of the coloration 1072 00:43:04,670 --> 00:43:01,440 we're seeing here really has to do with 1073 00:43:08,690 --> 00:43:04,680 the sand dune and you look at you see 1074 00:43:11,299 --> 00:43:08,700 that the the dune field is dark and in 1075 00:43:13,180 --> 00:43:11,309 this kind of a camera will look sort of 1076 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:13,190 little bluish 1077 00:43:19,220 --> 00:43:16,170 there and so there's darks and there's 1078 00:43:22,460 --> 00:43:19,230 the red dust and there's a substrate 1079 00:43:26,180 --> 00:43:22,470 rock which is tan or let you know like 1080 00:43:28,010 --> 00:43:26,190 like tone to some type those are all the 1081 00:43:31,609 --> 00:43:28,020 basic elements that we've known from 1082 00:43:34,309 --> 00:43:31,619 ours from telescopic observations you 1083 00:43:37,339 --> 00:43:34,319 know from the 50s and 60s all the way 1084 00:43:39,500 --> 00:43:37,349 through to our most recent missions just 1085 00:43:44,420 --> 00:43:39,510 looking at color tell you enough about 1086 00:43:48,470 --> 00:43:44,430 the the composition it can also it it 1087 00:43:51,410 --> 00:43:48,480 can also be a factor of texture as we 1088 00:43:53,539 --> 00:43:51,420 found in numerous sites where we thought 1089 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:53,549 we were seeing layers in the layers 1090 00:43:57,620 --> 00:43:55,770 rocks that had different compositions 1091 00:43:59,510 --> 00:43:57,630 yet generally they were the same 1092 00:44:01,640 --> 00:43:59,520 composition certainly nothing that you 1093 00:44:06,500 --> 00:44:01,650 could tell optically would be different 1094 00:44:09,799 --> 00:44:06,510 so the the way dust and sand are trapped 1095 00:44:11,990 --> 00:44:09,809 by a surface will also change their 1096 00:44:15,289 --> 00:44:12,000 color so I can't say it's a more 1097 00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:15,299 colorful or diverse site than others in 1098 00:44:20,359 --> 00:44:17,609 terms of just on the basis of the 1099 00:44:22,250 --> 00:44:20,369 photometry or colorimetry but obviously 1100 00:44:24,170 --> 00:44:22,260 geomorphic Lee is a very diverse place 1101 00:44:27,650 --> 00:44:24,180 and I expect we're going to see lots of 1102 00:44:30,410 --> 00:44:27,660 patterns from that if I could add 1103 00:44:33,470 --> 00:44:30,420 something to that um we've been looking 1104 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:33,480 at the high rise and mapping and when 1105 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:35,970 you start looking in in detail there 1106 00:44:40,130 --> 00:44:37,770 there are a lot of variations in the 1107 00:44:42,370 --> 00:44:40,140 texture and one of the things we're 1108 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:42,380 going to be working on is mapping these 1109 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:45,210 images we see in particular the Mardi to 1110 00:44:51,980 --> 00:44:49,170 send images onto the the high-rise ones 1111 00:44:56,329 --> 00:44:51,990 to really try to to see what that 1112 00:44:58,279 --> 00:44:56,339 diversity is and we were very excited 1113 00:45:00,019 --> 00:44:58,289 that there are a lot of things to look 1114 00:45:02,089 --> 00:45:00,029 at and as Mike said we don't know that 1115 00:45:03,620 --> 00:45:02,099 they're the same whether they're the 1116 00:45:05,900 --> 00:45:03,630 same or different compositions but they 1117 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:05,910 certainly have different textures and 1118 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:07,890 we're hoping the color can help us guide 1119 00:45:15,289 --> 00:45:13,130 us guide us to some variations as well 1120 00:45:19,670 --> 00:45:15,299 we're going to todd halvorson borrowers 1121 00:45:21,620 --> 00:45:19,680 lord it today in USA Today I am 1122 00:45:22,270 --> 00:45:21,630 wondering if you can tell us what you're 1123 00:45:25,030 --> 00:45:22,280 going to be doing 1124 00:45:26,370 --> 00:45:25,040 in the next 24 hours that it sounds like 1125 00:45:29,260 --> 00:45:26,380 you're going to start the software 1126 00:45:31,930 --> 00:45:29,270 upgrade and I was wondering how long 1127 00:45:35,350 --> 00:45:31,940 that takes and whether you can do 1128 00:45:40,020 --> 00:45:35,360 anything else during that upgrade earth 1129 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:40,030 that's just what you got planned well 1130 00:45:46,930 --> 00:45:43,010 then she starts on Sulphur on Saul five 1131 00:45:51,010 --> 00:45:46,940 rather and and so those flight software 1132 00:45:53,110 --> 00:45:51,020 transition days five six seven and eight 1133 00:45:55,510 --> 00:45:53,120 we're pretty much devoted just to that 1134 00:45:57,010 --> 00:45:55,520 flight software activity and not to 1135 00:45:58,990 --> 00:45:57,020 science so we're kind of standing down 1136 00:46:01,750 --> 00:45:59,000 from science as McMillan indicated and 1137 00:46:03,130 --> 00:46:01,760 the reason is we you know we have we 1138 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:03,140 have two computers you think about when 1139 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:04,490 you upgrade your own software your 1140 00:46:07,090 --> 00:46:05,930 computer's down for a little bit we have 1141 00:46:09,310 --> 00:46:07,100 a bunch of copies of the flight software 1142 00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:09,320 and we have some backup copies and so 1143 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:10,730 you know you would sort of load it into 1144 00:46:13,330 --> 00:46:12,050 one and load it into another and then 1145 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:13,340 turn the other one on load that one on 1146 00:46:18,460 --> 00:46:15,650 and verify each of those intermediate 1147 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:18,470 steps and and sometimes you're stuck in 1148 00:46:21,310 --> 00:46:19,970 this mode where you have you know the 1149 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:21,320 old software on part of your computer 1150 00:46:23,950 --> 00:46:22,490 and the new software on part and we 1151 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:23,960 didn't want to start try to do executing 1152 00:46:27,910 --> 00:46:26,570 other other you know complex activities 1153 00:46:29,980 --> 00:46:27,920 in the middle of that so we kind of 1154 00:46:32,950 --> 00:46:29,990 stand down and would be back to science 1155 00:46:35,050 --> 00:46:32,960 um the day after that's all nine this is 1156 00:46:37,390 --> 00:46:35,060 the first time I've heard Mike refer to 1157 00:46:38,890 --> 00:46:37,400 this type as a change of a software I 1158 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:38,900 sure hope he does better than what I've 1159 00:46:45,700 --> 00:46:43,970 done on my machines we are gonna get 1160 00:46:49,270 --> 00:46:45,710 down link aren't we through this okay 1161 00:46:53,290 --> 00:46:49,280 will you up here Oh quickly and then 1162 00:46:58,540 --> 00:46:53,300 we've got just clarify what day Earth 1163 00:47:01,930 --> 00:46:58,550 Day saw five is yeah it starts ons on 1164 00:47:05,230 --> 00:47:01,940 Saturday okay it's 21 here at the front 1165 00:47:06,730 --> 00:47:05,240 of the room and again we've got about 1166 00:47:09,340 --> 00:47:06,740 five minutes left to get a couple 1167 00:47:11,530 --> 00:47:09,350 questions in a quest is Jonathan Tomas 1168 00:47:14,860 --> 00:47:11,540 BBC again that's question for Dawn in 1169 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:14,870 your quads you showed us on the the nav 1170 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:17,450 cam panorama where you want it to head 1171 00:47:23,530 --> 00:47:19,610 to I don't know if you could show us in 1172 00:47:25,570 --> 00:47:23,540 which quads that is and it's it's 1173 00:47:28,660 --> 00:47:25,580 actually not in any of the quads that 1174 00:47:35,980 --> 00:47:28,670 we've mapped so so the it's oh actually 1175 00:47:40,620 --> 00:47:35,990 it is it's about 120 121 134 one third 1176 00:47:44,530 --> 00:47:40,630 five so so down towards the bottom yeah 1177 00:47:47,710 --> 00:47:44,540 is is the area that I was pointing to in 1178 00:47:49,060 --> 00:47:47,720 the Nazca okay and the second part of my 1179 00:47:51,430 --> 00:47:49,070 question was has there been any 1180 00:47:54,100 --> 00:47:51,440 discussion in the science team about 1181 00:47:55,690 --> 00:47:54,110 using the chemcam laser on the on the 1182 00:47:57,340 --> 00:47:55,700 scale marks or is there so much 1183 00:47:59,740 --> 00:47:57,350 contamination there it's just it's just 1184 00:48:01,630 --> 00:47:59,750 not worth while there's been a lot of 1185 00:48:05,350 --> 00:48:01,640 discussion and there's an awful lot of 1186 00:48:15,510 --> 00:48:05,360 eagerness to know what the composition 1187 00:48:21,700 --> 00:48:17,830 calivita sky and telescope also for dawn 1188 00:48:22,990 --> 00:48:21,710 in mapping this this area with the 1189 00:48:25,660 --> 00:48:23,000 orbital imagery that you have available 1190 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:25,670 does it look like what you expected to 1191 00:48:36,010 --> 00:48:31,610 few rocks lag deposit whatever um method 1192 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:36,020 Oh almost none of the rocks and details 1193 00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:37,970 we can see in the foreground are visible 1194 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:42,250 from the orbiter images and so this area 1195 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:46,490 we identified as being smooth and we we 1196 00:48:52,720 --> 00:48:49,130 sort of have a number of units and this 1197 00:48:55,330 --> 00:48:52,730 this was one that in compiling the maps 1198 00:49:00,340 --> 00:48:55,340 it was very difficult to interpret what 1199 00:49:02,770 --> 00:49:00,350 it was and so the the images the nav cam 1200 00:49:05,260 --> 00:49:02,780 and mask am images have have given us 1201 00:49:09,190 --> 00:49:05,270 our first sense of what this terrain is 1202 00:49:11,980 --> 00:49:09,200 like and we are now you know discussing 1203 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:11,990 what it means in the broader context 1204 00:49:17,890 --> 00:49:15,890 ways that it might have formed how we 1205 00:49:23,109 --> 00:49:17,900 can actually what observations we can 1206 00:49:25,870 --> 00:49:23,119 make to understand how it formed hey any 1207 00:49:28,330 --> 00:49:25,880 more questions here in the room all 1208 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:28,340 right then that will be it for today but 1209 00:49:32,020 --> 00:49:29,690 I want to remind everyone that we'll be 1210 00:49:35,050 --> 00:49:32,030 back tomorrow at ten a.m. pacific time 1211 00:49:36,940 --> 00:49:35,060 we'll have a longer format press 1212 00:49:38,620 --> 00:49:36,950 conference at that time we'll have our 1213 00:49:40,570 --> 00:49:38,630 daily update but we will also have the 1214 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:40,580 entry descent and landing team come back 1215 00:49:44,710 --> 00:49:42,890 to present their reconstructed data from 1216 00:49:46,540 --> 00:49:44,720 landing and a lot of details about that 1217 00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:46,550 so please join us again tomorrow and 1218 00:49:50,650 --> 00:49:48,730 thank you for joining us today 1219 00:51:26,070 --> 00:49:50,660 broadcasters please stand by for the